My Conversation with a Republican-Libertarian

Proserpina: Racism. That's the one topic where some people don't consider the Right sincere. "Racism is wrong, sure, but not criminal. I won't force someone to do business with or hire people they don't want to." I'm hearing from alot of Libs and it becomes difficult to form a lasting conversation because their model excludes the idea of the majority of institituions actively oppressing you.

"Libertarians are fundementally against racism."

"Okay, but when most banks redline Blacks, who is going to stop it?"

"Don't do business with those banks. They will suffer for excluding you. :D"

"Fine, so then where do Blacks get loans? Buy homes?"

".... :("

Rep-Lib: Pay cash? Why do blacks or anyone have to go into debt. The only color that matters in this county is green! ;o)

Proserpina: That's a nice joke. Atleast i hope it's a joke.

Rep-Lib: Actually, paying cash is extremely realistic. It's all about behavior. Don't get me wrong the system is stacked against minorities, this much is true, but that shouldn't stop any person from getting out of poverty and creating the life that they so choose, aka the pursuit of happiness.

To be clear, I'm not a libertarian so I couldn't answer what a libertarian would do. I am a Republican in the true sense of the word.

Proserpina: Millions could buy a house or car with cash?... Whatever. Fine then. What would a republican do about redlining, generational poverty and everything else that is systematically caused by people's refusal to work together?

Rep-Lib: Create an even playing field by holding companies responsible, by not allowing monopolies. That's a start. Create a better tax system that doesn't tax production but rather consumption. Defend the Constitution and the Republic by not allowing European democracy, aka socialism (welfarism, communism, etc.) to take over our economy and political system. Go back to a pure laissez-faire Capitalist economy rather than a mixed socialist/capitalist economy.

Proserpina: What do monopolies have to do with companies discriminating because of race or gender? What does ANY of that have to do with anything?

Rep-Lib: Monopolies derive there power from being the top dog, with little to no competition, which means they can be racist if they want to because no one can stop them. When there are other options available, people in general, will typically go with the company that offers the best deal, or customer service or whatever reason they choose.

This same principle goes for any company, including banks. As long as there is competition available then people will choose to go with the company that best suits there needs. If one bank or company is racist then most people wouldn't bank there, you know besides the racist, and therefore they would probably go out of business. So it's counter productive in the business world to care about the color of ones skin or the there heritage or gender or anything like that.

Proserpina: .... Right. So, what monopolies, in finance or anything else, is to blame for America's active oppression of non-whites?

Rep-Lib: My goodness. Is this really about race? Where do you see racism today? What bank doesn't allow a black people to get a loan? It sounds like you want reparations, is that where we are headed?

Proserpina: Just because you are making up things and not basing your reasoning on history doesn't make me a radical Black. I would love to know what banks lost white clients because they were redlining blacks.

PLEASE don't taint this conversation as many have done by going down the "LOL, WHAT YOU WANT REPARATIONS? WHAT, ARE YOU A COMMUNIST? LOL" road. I've been very clear about what I'm asking. Systematic action to combat systematic action. If you don't think redlining and blockbusting should be illegal, just SAY what you, or more generally, Republicans would do to get Blacks the loans they need to buy their houses, their cars, their businesses, their livelihoods...

Communism Values

Getting Good Points on What Communism Is:
(Urg, I'm getting sick of these guys. I'm going to move on to something else soon enough. Probably after Spring Break.)

What We Fight For

Progressive Labor Party (PLP) fights to smash capitalism -- wage slavery. While the bosses and their mouthpieces claim "communism is dead:" capitalism is the real failure for billions all over the world. Capitalism returned to the Soviet Union and China because socialism failed to wipe out many aspects of the profit system, like wages and division of labor.

Capitalism inevitably leads to wars. PLP organizes workers, students and soldiers to turn these wars into a revolution for communism -- the dictatorship of the proletariat. This fight requires a mass Red Army led by the communist PLP.

Communism means working collectively to build a society where sharing is based on need. We will abolish work for wages, money and profits. Everyone will share in society's benefits and burdens.

Communism means abolishing racism and the concept of race.

Communism means abolishing the special oppression of women workers.

Communism means abolishing nations and nationalism. One International working class, one world, one Party.

Communism means the Party leads every aspect of society. For this to work, millions of workers -- eventually everyone -- must become communist organizers. Join Us!